Why did Goku struggle on King Kai's planet?

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Why did Goku struggle on King Kai's planet?
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+ Clearin	Aug 10 2011, 04:51 PM Post #1
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	He mentioned as a kid he spent less than a month in the RoSaT, I assume that's at least 1 week, so he spent a bit of time in x10 gravity maybe not enough to get used to it but he acts like it's completely new when he goes to King Kai's planet (And the RoSaT should have been harder due to the 1/4 air) I know the real reason is "Akira didn't think of it at the time" but are there any possible in-universe explanations? I mean he could have just taken out the line about Goku being in there as a kid anyway and this wouldn't have happened >_>



~~Spirit~~	Aug 10 2011, 04:53 PM Post #2
So Lonely Posts: 1,435 Group: GTFO Member #6,401 Joined: June 24, 2011	It's a plot hole if you ask me. He would only weigh about 1350 lbs.
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TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Aug 10 2011, 04:56 PM Post #3
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+ Clearin	Aug 10 2011, 04:57 PM Post #4
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	wolffanghameha Aug 10 2011, 04:56 PM When did he spend time in the rosat as a kid? I don't remember that being shown. It wasn't shown, but he said it.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Aug 10 2011, 04:59 PM Post #5
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	You sure?.... When? Are you sure he didn't mean the room with the clocks? Anyway also, what's the gravity like in the rosat? And another thing, well King Kai said he did better than most people when he asked him to jump.
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J-Smack	Aug 10 2011, 05:01 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	It was in the manga, too. So, there's no getting away with "it was filler." It had been a long tim since he had been in there, and perhaps he only got to crawl around the RoSaT when he was a kid until he was succumbed and got out of it.
	darkwarrior has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it. Y2J Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****. ObsessiveFanGirl I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. Now, there's an idea.


lunar2	Aug 10 2011, 05:05 PM Post #7
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	it had been at least 5 years since he had experienced high gravity, and he might not have left the living area very often while he was in there. iirc, the high gravity starts outside the living area. so, he probably never got used to the gravity.
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+ Clearin	Aug 10 2011, 05:05 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	wolffanghameha Aug 10 2011, 04:59 PM You sure?.... When? Are you sure he didn't mean the room with the clocks? Anyway also, what's the gravity like in the rosat? And another thing, well King Kai said he did better than most people when he asked him to jump. Chapter: 366 (DBZ 172), P3.5, P4.1 Goku: “I’m going to take Gohan and go train. At a place where I can train for 1 year in just 1 day…” Piccolo: “So that’s it! You want to go to the Room of ‘Spirit and Time’! I see…But nobody’s ever been able to spend 1 year in there. Even you long ago could barely manage 1 month…” Turns out i was wrong with "Less than a month" it was actually "Barley a month" so he did spend an entire month in there.



J-Smack	Aug 10 2011, 06:01 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,328 Group: Member Member #5,101 Joined: August 5, 2010 Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball	I guess there's nothing that I can think of to explain why he reacted as though he didn't know what was going on when he got to the planet. It's Goku, meaning you can always blame it on his stupidity.
	darkwarrior has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it. Y2J Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****. ObsessiveFanGirl I don't believe in power levels after the Frieza Saga. Now, there's an idea.


* Yu Narukami	Aug 10 2011, 06:08 PM Post #10
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Doesn't really constitute to much but wasn't Goku wearing Weighted Clothing when he arrived on King Kai's planet?



NeoSSayajin	Aug 10 2011, 06:12 PM Post #11
Posts: 1,085 Group: Member Member #5,734 Joined: February 15, 2011 Country Argentina What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Mirai Trunks Aug 10 2011, 06:08 PM Doesn't really constitute to much but wasn't Goku wearing Weighted Clothing when he arrived on King Kai's planet? Yes, to catch Bubbles he took it off.



SirParagon	Aug 12 2011, 03:48 PM Post #12
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	J-Smack Aug 10 2011, 06:01 PM I guess there's nothing that I can think of to explain why he reacted as though he didn't know what was going on when he got to the planet. It's Goku, meaning you can always blame it on his stupidity. Ignorance and stupidity aren't the same thing and yeah, if anything I would say it's because of the weighted clothing... and maybe a touch of dramatic effect. Actually I'd say it's dramatic effect more than anything else. Seriously, how freaking dense must King Kai's planet be if it is 10x the gravity of Earth. I mean, it can't be more than 2 acres of land. Guess how many acres Earth has... 126,048,000,000 so to equal earth's gravity it has to be ~63,024,000,000 times denser than Earth, but it's not equal, it's 10x higher, so that would make King Kai's planet 630,240,000,000 times denser. Over six hundred and thirty billion times denser than Earth. Yet it is somehow destroyed by Cell's explosion. Edited by SirParagon, Aug 12 2011, 04:13 PM.
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Saberoph	Aug 12 2011, 06:27 PM Post #13
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	The reason why Goku had such a hard time on King Kaioshin's planet is because his body wasn't use to the high gravity, he lived on Earth his entire life so his body was use to normal gravity by that point, but by the time Goku returned to Earth post Frieza arc. his body was so use to all sorts of Gravity, it's all about what Goku was use to.
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+ Clearin	Aug 12 2011, 06:31 PM Post #14
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Saberoph Aug 12 2011, 06:27 PM The reason why Goku had such a hard time on King Kaioshin's planet is because his body wasn't use to the high gravity, he lived on Earth his entire life so his body was use to normal gravity by that point, but by the time Goku returned to Earth post Frieza arc. his body was so use to all sorts of Gravity, it's all about what Goku was use to. I was asking why he was so surprised at the gravity and acted like he'd never done it before when he had for a month in the RoSaT But I guess the weighted clothing answer answered my question.



lunar2	Aug 12 2011, 06:37 PM Post #15
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	SirParagon Aug 12 2011, 03:48 PM J-Smack Aug 10 2011, 06:01 PM I guess there's nothing that I can think of to explain why he reacted as though he didn't know what was going on when he got to the planet. It's Goku, meaning you can always blame it on his stupidity. Ignorance and stupidity aren't the same thing and yeah, if anything I would say it's because of the weighted clothing... and maybe a touch of dramatic effect. Actually I'd say it's dramatic effect more than anything else. Seriously, how freaking dense must King Kai's planet be if it is 10x the gravity of Earth. I mean, it can't be more than 2 acres of land. Guess how many acres Earth has... 126,048,000,000 so to equal earth's gravity it has to be ~63,024,000,000 times denser than Earth, but it's not equal, it's 10x higher, so that would make King Kai's planet 630,240,000,000 times denser. Over six hundred and thirty billion times denser than Earth. Yet it is somehow destroyed by Cell's explosion. wrong. no matter what the size of the planet, if it has the same density, it will have the same surface gravity. it's just that smaller planets' gravity fades faster with distance. this is actually somewhat simplified, but more or less true. for example, mercury has nearly the same overall density as earth, but much lower surface gravity because all its mass is concentrated at the core, while the outer layers are much lighter, but earth's mass is more evenly spread. so on mercury, if you are on the surface of the planet, you are actually several hundred miles from the main source of the gravity. king kai's planet likely has an extremely compressed core made of heavy elements like lead, with only a thin layer of soil above that.
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